CoffeeCAST – #6 – Senge Circle and Change Management

Welcome to the 6th Episode of Coffee Conversations with Stephen Hayward of Project X.

Today I welcome one of our Senior Consultants and an Advisory Board member Jim Hayward, former co-founder of Gellman Hayward and Partners, which is now a part of CGI.  Today in our discussion from the Don Cesar in sunny Florida we discuss:

  1. The Senge Circle – a working group started in the late 80’s or early 90’s where among many things (and we highlight) the group has discussed:
  2. Change Management
    • Readiness – Insight/Understanding – based on Bob Schaffer article (Advice to Internal & External Consultants: Expand Your Client’s Capacity to Use Your Help, Robert H. Schaffer, Advanced Management Journal, Autumn 1976)
    • The Use of Steering Committees
    • A few client stories
  3. And some other tidbits

Download cc_6_senge_and_change_management.mp3

Please enjoy, feel free to comment and have a great day!

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  1. mip Reply

    Having heard the Built to Last book title caused me to go and find it on my shelf. In the process I found another book next to it that I’ve read many time as well and really find a good read. Thought I’d recommend it to both of you as a potential read if you haven’t done so already. It’s called The Profit Zone and it’s written by Adrian Slywotzky and David Morrison. Really excellent read.

  2. Stephen Reply

    Jim, the book “Machine that Changed the World” is a great reference book for the change we are seeing in today’s environment.
    Whether it is the speed back then or the speed now, we are all feeling the challenge. This is also interesting in light of an early post I did on John Seely Brown’s presentation about productivity, innovation and the auto industry.

  3. Stephen Reply

    This was a very fun discussion and hopefully it will interest some folks to weigh in on some of the things we discussed.
    As for the coffee at the Don Cesar. It was a franchise Starbucks, so not as good as a true blue (green) location. It was still nice and the location was amazing even with the $10 US parking. Very comfy indeed.

  4. Jim Reply

    I just listened to the podcast and it was really good, if I do say so myself. In finding the reference for the Schaffer article I found their web site and found that my buddy, Harvey Thompson is still active. I hope to be in touch with him.
    The books mentioned really are profound. Another one that was quite interesting was “The Machine that Changed the World”, which was a study of the automobile manufacturing since its inception. The most interesting part of that book was how difficult it is to change a culture.
    Thanks, Steve, for doing the interview, I am honoured. Steve will have to comment on the coffee, he is the connisseur.

  5. mip Reply

    Great show!
    Jim – you’re a natural podcaster.
    Found the discussion very interesting. I’ve read built to last a few times and like it a lot. Would have loved to have been a part of the discussion there.
    Liked the background jazz music too 🙂
    My only question…was the Starbucks in Florida as nice as the one’s in Toronto.

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